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 Post subject: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Sep 27, 2017 7:31 pm 
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Hi, guys. I'm here with a few questions.

Dragons is why I like D&D, so when I become interested in a campaign world, I eventually began to study about the dragons of that world. Now that my campaign about the Temple of the Frog is going to end (and I have to update my post here about it), is time for some lore of Blackmorian dragons. Thing is, there is no much lore about them in the 4e and d20 Blackmoor books.

So, my questions:
-What makes Blackmoor dragons different to dragons of other worlds? (such Greyhawk or the Realms)
-Are there any unique blackmoorian races of dragons? Or only the classic ones?
-What about their society? if they have one.
-Is there any lore about the dragon gods besides what is said the books I have?

Thanks in advance!


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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Sep 28, 2017 1:39 am 
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Hi Zeromaru X, and welcome to the Comeback Inn! 8)

I might be in the minority here about what I am about to recommend, but, that is precisely why I want to recommend it; no one else might. :wink:

Dave Arneson came up with a random Dragon generator for Adventures in Fantasy, but this is not a product that is easily found. I happened across a physical copy - literally a xeroxed copy of it.

Now, the thing with AiF's system, is that it is barely compatible with D&D at worst, or at best, it is a system with a lot of Dave Arneson's add-on ideas. But Dave's dragon generator was such a spring-board for randomly created dragons, that compelled others to create other random dragon generators, which I did, following a DFer named EGPalmer.

Unfortunately, I cannot locate my PDF of this document, but I'll keep looking at alternate file caches, and if I find it, I'll come back & post a link to My Google docs. :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Sep 28, 2017 4:28 am 
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That is an excellent point Bobjester!

We love the here at the Comeback Inn, warts and all. Hardly a perfect RPG, but I totally agree that this is a game worth mining for Dave Arneson ideas and concepts. The Dragon Generator allows you to design dragons with different body types, different head shapes, wings, wingless, tails etc. I think this is a sign that all of Dave Arneson's Dragons were visually unique. This is very different from how later editions came to standardize the appearance of each type of dragon, at least through art direction.

I have quite a bit on Blackmoor's dragons lying around, but will have to get back to work so will post that later :)

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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Sep 28, 2017 5:02 am 
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Thank you both for the answer.

So, for what it seems, dragons in Blackmoor are unique compared to that of other worlds... at least in the visuals.

I'll wait for the infos you can post :D


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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Sep 28, 2017 5:42 am 
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Here's an overview of the .

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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Dec 17, 2017 4:57 pm 
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Am I missing something, but there's a mention of Purple dragons in the First Fantasy Campaign. It doesn't get much notice though. And I'm still fascinated by the idea of the Ran of An Foo breeding dragons (and building robots) again not much mentioned.


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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Dec 18, 2017 10:56 am 
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Oh, that's pretty interesting. So, I guess that make the blackmoorian dragons pretty unique. Thanks for that little tidbit of info. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Dragons of Blackmoor
PostPosted: Dec 18, 2017 5:00 pm 
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Are you sure Purple Dragons are mean't to be Purple Worms, I'm taking them from the Dragon list on page 61 of the revised First Fantasy Campaign, I know that's the Snider section and part of the Father of Dragons bit.

The dragon breeding part does get me thinking, what with Uther as King in the North, the Peshwah nomads, and Tosca Russ (Bride of Fire and Ice), presumably seizing the dragon farms in the invasion of Ten, it has some interesting hints of Game of Thrones.


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